HTML Editor - images drag & drop-...

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I've always kept the images open on my file list on the left side of the screen. When I need to insert an image I drag and drop it into the document. When I need to upload an image I right click and upload it. However, in the recent few versions the way HTML Editor handles images seems "clunky." Dragging and dropping images doesn't seem to work and by merely clicking on an image it gets dropped into the document..usually not where I want it.

I've looked through the forums and couldn't see that anyone else was experiencing this problem. Have you noticed it?

Speaking of the forums, I've had to re-type this several times because it keeps dropping letters in front of my cursor. Is this just me too?
:confused:

Bret
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but I could not resist to tell you.... Yes it's all you :)
Meant just in fun.
But more seriously, I had a simmilar problem a while agao and it was that my batteries on the cordless keyboard was running low and it does that as well with my mouse.
Alfred
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Shortly after posting this thread I downloaded the "F" update. The image handling seems a little better, but I still ended up with images accidentally inserted into my webpage.

I really preferred the "drag and drop" aspect to the old system as to the "click n' place" way it seems to work now.

Bret
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I noticed this recently, and have fixed it for the next update.
Mike Dixon - Senior Software Developer
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MikeDixon wrote:
fixed it for the next update.
Which update - could you let us know which version that will be in as we seem to have a version released yesterday that is marked with the same version as the last one (i.e. Version F), but the File Size is different. It's hard to tell what versions we are actually running - surely version control can't be that difficult?
misterjaytee
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This has not been addressed yet but should be soon. Once it is it will be posted on line. You can always tell what the most current version is by looking at the release date at coffeecup.com/html-editor

We do not change version numbers unless major items have changed.

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HI, need your help...

I know that it is hard to do an Visual editor for the web and CC has done an outstanding job to let a newbie like me build websites which are quite ok... well done...

But since I am doing some pages with images right now...

the implementation of images is killing me...they nearly NEVER go go where I want them...even in the editor mode, they are really a nuisance...

there is this lock image thing which sends the image all the way to another place (first "landing" place on the page?)

I find nothing in the tutorials...
if the visual editor has a problem, how can I tell CC where to put the image with code...

any newbie intensive here?? where can i find a tutorial??

Thank you so much
daniel
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Hiya Skywalker,

I am wondering, are you switching between the code and visual modes back and forth as you're editing? If so this is causing most of your problems. The HTML Editor doesn't support using 'both' functionalities, you much choose "either" Code or Visual and stick with it. The reason for this is because they use entirely different markup for editing your page and one editor tries to cleanup the other editor in a sense and alters the code to fit it's own style when you swap. This can cause some really nasty problems with your site and you'll never be able to get it where and how you want it.

If you're really into the visual scene of editing a site, although the HTML Editor will do a decent job, it's not totally built for this function (truly I wish they would remove it because it does cause these troubles so much with the switching back and forth thing) the Visual Site Designer would probably do you a lot better for your needs. If you want to do HTML then you should definitely switch to that and stay with it.

Either way I would need to know if the swapping is taking place or not to know if part of your issue is from that or not. I don't use the visual editor at all, simply put it's not as helpful as it used to be since the Visual Site Designer has pretty much replaced it.

If you were swapping, and you want to continue with the HTML editor, I would suggest you restart your site so it uses only straight HTML code unless you're knowledgeable enough to alter the code that the visual mode created so it fits the site correctly. If you're wanting to stick with the visual mode, I would suggest giving Visual Site Designer a try and see how you like that, it's a lot more versatile and powerful.
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HI Jo Ann,

thank you for your reply...

yes, I am swithcing and cannot do differently, since I am no HTML pro and often need to add links or Meta Tags or Keywords or title...you cannot do that in the visual editor...

so using both together is the best and only of worlds for me

but if I can find a manual somewhere how to place the images in the code afterwards I would be happy...is there a "how to place images in HTML" instruction somewhere?

I know that the editors are a "problem" used together and CC does an outstanding job...

but I DO need both at once with SBI

Thank you

Daniel

Daniel P.
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Hiya Skywalker,

You truly need to choose one way or the other with the HTML Editor. This really does cause serious problems to your code and isn't intended to be used that way. I realize you are aware of the problem now at least, but why not give VSD a look over and see how that would work for you? You can do that for 30 days free which gives you plenty of time to get the hang of how it works and see if it's what would help you better.

The reason I really try to stress this issue is because image placing is one of the things that the swapping totally screws up among many other things. There is no stable code at all when you do this as it will keep swapping it's code back and forth all the time each time you swap. I guess I just can't stress enough the problems that the swap causes and that it's most likely most of your difficulties trying to place your images correctly. If you've swapped back and forth on that page already a few times, it could just be that the code is pretty messed up now and it literally "can't" place the image correctly because it's mixed up and trying to follow too many styles and settings set between 2 different coding styles.

Hopefully that makes sense lol, I can't force you of course to change, but I can surely stress the importance of what's happening and hopefully help you understand why you're most likely having difficulties.

As for the how to, I would try the help file to see if there are any helps in there for it, other than that a Google search for html image position should find you lots of help. Of course the problem will be that you need to know how it's done in the code that it will be in after you're done. In other words, if you plan to end it all in Code setting, then look for the HTML code for it, if you plan to end it all on the Visual side, then you'll need to know the positionining code for that style which I have no clue on lol. That's the main dilemma with the swapping.

Just so you know also, VSD does give you a way to enter HTML, FLASH, JAVA etc. code in it so you can do so without messing up your code like the HTML Editor will. Gives you a lot of versatility without all the headaches that the code changing will give you.

P.S.S. The down side of going with VSD is that you would have to restart your site in VSD as it doesn't edit already made sites as it has it's own built in file system and cannot import files to it. But once done, then you just go from there so although it would be restarting with a setback, it would be moving on with much more productivity :)

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