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So far I have only gotten spam when I use a PHP contact form. Even with "honeypot". Therefore I would like to add a link on the contact page that calls the email program of the user or gives him the possibility to use it.
Like for example on this page = https://righthereinmypocket.com/Contact.html
how could you do that in SD
And can I avoid that the email address is mentioned in plain text under the link to the email program (to avoid spam)?
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1/ add Google recaptcha to your form
Or
2/ use cc webform builder or make your own form similar to the one in my signature below, where they need answer a question (Inger had that sort of option once before in the form you used) if you are still using that code for your form maybe that option is still there just needs activating.

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And can I avoid that the email address is mentioned in plain text under the link to the email program (to avoid spam)?

Is that plain text a link? or just plain text?
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Having a link like that page you used as an example assumes that the visitor has an email account that can be opened in a browser (which isn't exactly spam proof anyway (nothing is 100% proof, but re-captcha is one of the best ways to reduce spam, and that combined with the custom code (whether it's identifying an image or answering a question, also adds another level of security. )

We have had numerous conversations about this particular problem, with possible solutions before,
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There is of course on underlying question you need to look at and that is

What does your website analytical data tell you?
You say
So far I have only gotten spam when I use a PHP contact form.


This infers to me that perhaps your website isn't reaching your target audience in the first place, and id it does reach even a few, then one has to ask oneself why are they not making even an initial inquiry?. by looking at your analytics data you can quickly see how many unique visitors your website gets (even down to hourly by day if necessary) how long the average time was that your visitors spent on your website, what pages they visited, what page they departed.
From that data you can then start to dive into the why and why nots.

Is the enquiry (inquiry) form or the link to it prominent, easily seen, is the form easy to complete, etc etc.

Ask yourself do your website pages keep your visitors interested enough to stay long enough on your website to actually think about contacting you? , if the analytical data indicates each UNIQUE visitor stays for less than a minute or so, then the answer has to be NO so then you need look at the WHY

Could it be that your website isn't appearing high enough on the search engine results pages for their users search inquiry (SEARCH INTENT) , such that people don't even see your website to even know it exists. Or are search engines EVEN LISTING your website at all, or are they perhaps blocking it, (id so why?? )

There are so many factors that need looking at, and even adding things like CAPTCHA, or mailto: thingies to your form or links won't actually result in any improvement.

Can you perhaps fix this part first before jump in into the actual function of the form and what you can then do to reduce spam
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for instance

a search query just for your websites name, results on Google Firefox at position 5 on the first search engine results page, which isn't too bad,
BUT THAT SEARCH REQUEST INDICATED THE PERSON WHO REQUESTED IT KNOWS YOUR WEBSITE NAME
which then begs the question if they know your website name why would they do a relative search, surely they would be doing an absolute search( no need to ask search engines to find your site)

On Microsoft BING it's nowhere to be seen (well at least not on the first 5 pages)

delving deeper and more specific
a search for a documentary video (film) about Cuba (USING YOUR FILM TITLE!!) does result in the top position on search engine results pages
BUT once again, that request is an absolute request not a relative one,

a relative search (without the actual title of your film) once again results in your website about Cuba nowhere to be seen on the bigger search engines,

So this indicates to me that your websites that are particular about a subject are not fully optimised for search engines to show on their first results page.

By the way once again I stress that isn't going to fix or cure the problem of spam mail but it could be one of the reasons you are ONLY getting spam mail.

Finally one more thing
that link in your footer is still pointing to the wrong PHP name (we have talked about this previously) so even if a real person was to select it with the intention if contacting you they get

404 NOT FOUND error

how can you expect any real person to send you their enquiry request when your form sends them to a page that doesn't exist HMM they are going to leave, and they are probably never going to return (this website doesn't work so maybe they can't even make a video!!)

Spambots etc don't need to land on the page, they can find the form on your website ans fill it in and send it in less that a second or two.




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Hi Wayan,
Thank you for the many ideas and approaches. At the moment I just removed the php - hence the 404 message... I'll have to see what I do next.
See you then and thanks again
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Mich ael wrote:
Hi Wayan,
Thank you for the many ideas and approaches. At the moment I just removed the php - hence the 404 message... I'll have to see what I do next.
See you then and thanks again


As of this moment (today in Indonesia 15/10/2024 03:00 AM You HAVE NOT removed the incorrect Link button pointing to the wrong PHP file.

<div class="html-element html-element-1-1"><img src="php/contact2.php"/></div>

all you had to so was change it to point to the real php file

AND
I have just noticed that ALL (or as may as I can find) of your links have the _blank included as the target
example
<div class="container footer-films-dt"><a href="https(www)(http)xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(real link removed)l" class="responsive-picture picture-link-dt" title="Das Indische Räderwerk" target="_blank">

URLs that link to external websites using the target="_blank" attribute (to open in a new tab), without using the attribute rel="noopener" (or rel="noreferrer") alone leaves those pages exposed to security (spammers/hackers) and can ecen cause some performance issues on modern browsers, such as Chrome, Safari, Firefox and Edge external links that contain the target="_blank" attribute by itself can be viewed in the 'outlinks' tab and 'target' column.
You should ideally include the rel="noopener" link attribute on any links that contain the target="_blank" attribute to avoid security and performance issues.

The one other thing of course is that spammers (be they naughty bad HUMAN BEINGS, or robots sent by the NAUGHTY bad human beings now ALREADY HAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS in their data, so it's a bit late now to avoid still getting spammy email, in future from those,
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Thanks a lot Wayan - but:
Nobody knows how to do the simple thing I asked on top ?
Just a link that calls the email program of the user or gives him the possibility to install the linking.
Like for example on this page = https://righthereinmypocket.com/Contact.html
how could you do that in SD

Should be easy ?
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Everyone who can create a website should be able to create a mail link like that—and you should be, too. But I thought the idea was to keep your own email address hidden from spammers. In the example you're referring to, the site owner's address, is visible right on the page.

You can right-click on that page and copy the bit of code. You find it near the bottom of the page, just above the footer. Just change the email address.
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