Got to say, that is one cool graphic Gunsmoke, stetson off to you fellow. How did you do it? or is that a secret and if you told me you would have to kill me

I think Steve, CC have selective hearing on the RLM, it's like we not hearing this anymore. I bet Scott reads these you know, it's like saying to a child here's some ice cream, then taking it off them and eating it yourself

I think them vids are good you did old chap. I like it when people explain what they are doing in vids with vocals, very informative I thought.

No death required. I think more and more CC users are going here for graphics ideas. Easy to create, fairly affordable and sometimes even FREE if you watch the facebook site. These graphics go really well with CC products.

https://www.facebook.com/Laughingbird.Software

Yeah I've heard of laughing bird, but he don't like to answer my questions when I ask him he ain't CC support Is there any software in particular that you would recommend as there's a few to choose?

The Logo Creator is the one I use the most. Several add-ons you can get for it. As I said, if you watch the facebook page you can sometimes grab them for free. He also has a brother that runs Mascots 2 Go and creates cartoon characters. He also has a facebook page and also gives away free graphics from time to time.

I just finished a logo for a Coffeecup user (not posting his name) where I used the Logo Creator to create several PNG shots. I then used GIMP to convert the PNGs to GIFS and used CC Animation Studio to create an animated logo. Worked out pretty good I thought. All drugs aside.

There are several good graphics programs out there, GIMP being one of the free ones, but I really have very little artistic ability so the Logo Creator works out well for me.

Ok so we know it's not a women that you been doing a logo for So who is he? I use all sorts of graphics packages, but I'm into photography so they all give something. Ashampoo photo commander 11, Zoner 15 pro are good and reasonable priced. Free one's is Photoscape, which is brilliant that does Gifs as well. I also have EasyGif maker but don't use it much. Of course as you know I use Flame Painter and Amberlight, but you can't make logos with them but they are brilliant programs for what they do. Think I use Zoner as my main editor. It's funny I have an art and graphics background but it's taken me years to be able to marry that into Web Design. I was more of a Javascript coder, but I do think I'm turning the corner as regards actual design. It's hard trying to do everything yourself and if you concentrate on one skill others get put in the background

Couldn't agree more. Hardest thing to do is come to terms with what the client wants. They can explain all they want, then you go creative and next thing you know it's not even close to what they want. Takes a lot of back and forth. Really hard for me to do right now with my medical problems. Just saw a new doc today and had my meds changed. They're still talking about doing another scan, steroid in the neck shots and all sorts of unpleasant sounding things. Me, I'm hoping the meds work!

Oh my Gunsmoke. I really feel for you I hope the new meds work better for you! I went through a terrible back injury 8 years ago and went through many different types of treatment to fix it so I know where your coming from. I was on so many meds at one point that it was starting to effect my liver. I'm all better now for the most part so hopefully you will see the same outcome.

What you scared of a little steroid Yeah seriously mate, hope things pick up for you, you been through a rough time. Hope these meds do the trick. If they don't though a steroid can knock down inflammation. Man I've been through so many scans, tests. When people say I'm leaving my body to science, I don't need to, they've run all tests known to man

As regards clients I thought that was just me. I've had clients that do my head in, some never really tell you what they want, as if we Web Designers/Telepathic Mind Readers. Other things that don't annoy me because they don't really know, but when potential clients says how much do you charge? How do you know what to charge if you don't know what they want. Everyone's needs are so different most of the time. I haven't picked up a client for a while, probably because I'm rubbish