Scottttttt they're cursing with 4 letter words!

What? Four-letter words such as "done" and "soon?"

You can never be too careful here, especially when it's about releasing dates for new updates...

But Jo Ann is not known for telling on people, instead she has a very loose frying pan. (*ducking*)

The problem is you have millions of users, and you say, I will be done with the new Web Form Builder on Tuesday Feb, 21, 2012. Now, you have thousands of people expecting that program on that day...

You are creating the program and all of a sudden you find a major bug that effects the way the program is used... Would you release it to the public to play with and have the program break?

Now, I ask you... How many times have you had to look over your HTML code or CSS Code, or VSD or Form or whatever you were building for online, and have to find a bug or an error on your part?

I like to think that great things take a great amount of time, and I for one, am ready and willing to wait for the masterpiece of the finished bug free version, rather than be greedy and want it NOW not caring about what bugs there are (unless testing the software). Because in the end... Those bugs are going to cost me more time then waiting for the finished version anyway.

Now, you can see why they do not like to put release dates into writing.

I'd buy definitely buy a CoffeeCup cms if there were one. Problem is that there are so many out there already. Free and paid.

If anyone is interested in a cms that's just as simple as CoffeeCup software, check out GetSimple CMS http://get-simple.info/

Well Said Tonster, and SMF Forums is great too. They give you the power of the CMS with the power of the Forums. There's a nice module/plugin/addon you can put in that turns your forum into a portal website which is pretty slick if I don't say so myself.

http://www.simplemachines.org/

I think in other threads I said I thought CMS could be simple so using VSD for the templates, the Editor to add the script and in this case a converted textarea posted by a form action to send to the display. For most other content changes the WFB will do the job admirably, with a bit of help.

In no way would I consider I could compete with the major players. I only think in the simple terms I understand.

I do propose to use this on a site I am working on for our Art Society. I have various members that will be doing their own thing and as most of them are older than I this will be simple for them to grasp.

Anyway this is how simple it can be http://inkmon.org/demos/Editor.php

I have a special lady to thank for solving a problem I had with the display. I will do that now. Thanks Jo your knowledge is outstanding, you have my admiration.

Check this out for CMS! http://www.tero.co.uk/scripts/onepagecms.php Simple and Effective -
Just one page, although I have teaked mine for extra features and you could incorporate in less than a minute. Paul (Tero) has added new features like add new page which I have not tried yet.


Donationware

I looked at the TinyMCE system. I admit it is not bad. A lot of people sell systems based on that as it is open source, but it is a complete system and the whole of the process is controlled by it, one page or many pages. My aim was to use CC's programs to do it, especially the power of VSD which it works around. VSD builds the CMS pages, site whatever. It is brilliant and creates such beautiful code. If only I could edit the code in program, VSD would be the complete CMS system. Oh! well maybe one day.

I like doing my own thing plus use the tools I have. All CMS systems work in a similar way. I wanted to use VSD as it produces fantastic themes/templates and also the place holders for the CMS. I would say any WYSIWYG program could also but they don't come as good as VSD. Now if I could change the ext to php and add a script to the top of the file. I could use VSD solely. But I do have the Editor so I import the VSD output into that. So instead of having to create a content change system I have WFB for Images, Simple Text, Links and anything else I can think of and I am not locked into one way of doing things.
I am a simple man and see things in a simple way so I create simple things that work in simple ways. I am nearly 70 retired and this is a hobby and fun. I do sell software but not web related. I could but only if challenged.

In conclusion Bry
I think the system that you use seems as good as any and if it works for you that is great and I wish you success with it. I am not selling a CMS system. I may charge to add something to a page if someone twists my arm.

Since you asked about CMS ....

I am an admitted shameless fanboy for MODx (http://www.modx.com). I love its ability to accept HTML pages (with embedded Javascript, too) as themes. This lets me do custom graphic design conveniently in the CoffeeCup HTML editor, then import the HTML and accompanying CSS, and finally substitute MODx tags for content and navigation. Voila! Instant multi-page Web site that expands with added content like an accordian.

Another nice aspect is MODx's encapsulation of PHP scripts via tags, which is helpful for site security.

There's object-orientation, database abstraction goodness, blah, blah, blah etc. tech stuff in there, too.

The downside is that I can't use the CC Editor to create content "inside" the MODx manager, but must instead use an embedded editor such as TinyMCE or just roll the HTML by hand.